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	<title>Comments on: Preservation Debate Rages Over Silver Spring&#8217;s Falkland Chase Apartments</title>
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		<title>By: dan reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really sure what the density in the concept drawing is (and, BTW, I don&#039;t know when it was drawn up, but I&#039;m pretty sure it wasn&#039;t in the 1990&#039;s), but it&#039;s probably comparable if not higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really sure what the density in the concept drawing is (and, BTW, I don&#8217;t know when it was drawn up, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it wasn&#8217;t in the 1990&#8242;s), but it&#8217;s probably comparable if not higher.</p>
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		<title>By: David Daddio</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2009/2512/comment-page-1#comment-439896</link>
		<dc:creator>David Daddio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob or Dan, any idea how much less dense the &quot;conceptual drawing created by county planners in the 1990s&quot; is compared to what the developers are proposing? I&#039;m assuming that the conceptual drawing has fewer units and less open space. I definitely agree with the &quot;human and neighborhood scale&quot; argument. The Art Deco apartment buildings in Cleaveland/Woodley park do a  much better job of develivering density while providing a good relation to the street. This proposal just delivers density while delivering a suburban supply of open space that some people will have time to look at as they drive in the garage but few people will physically use. This is a slightly watered down version of  a Le Corbusier city.

The preservation scheme seems pretty balaced. If we were talking about Greenbelt then it would be a different story. It would be positively crazy to preserve this entire complex given the massive change that has befallen Silver Spring since the 1930&#039;s. It would also be an abject failure of the political and planning community to not take better advantage of the billions poured into the metro system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob or Dan, any idea how much less dense the &#8220;conceptual drawing created by county planners in the 1990s&#8221; is compared to what the developers are proposing? I&#8217;m assuming that the conceptual drawing has fewer units and less open space. I definitely agree with the &#8220;human and neighborhood scale&#8221; argument. The Art Deco apartment buildings in Cleaveland/Woodley park do a  much better job of develivering density while providing a good relation to the street. This proposal just delivers density while delivering a suburban supply of open space that some people will have time to look at as they drive in the garage but few people will physically use. This is a slightly watered down version of  a Le Corbusier city.</p>
<p>The preservation scheme seems pretty balaced. If we were talking about Greenbelt then it would be a different story. It would be positively crazy to preserve this entire complex given the massive change that has befallen Silver Spring since the 1930&#8242;s. It would also be an abject failure of the political and planning community to not take better advantage of the billions poured into the metro system.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2009/2512/comment-page-1#comment-439861</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll second what Elizabeth said. Downtown Silver Spring has a glut of 1-2 bedroom apartments. If you really want to talk about smart growth you need to directly design places where middle income families will want to live that aren&#039;t separate houses on private plots of land.

If someone has the money, why would a 3-4 person family rent a 2 bedroom apartment when there are now full houses for rent for $2000/month in walking distance to the same station?

Only a fraction of the huge Blair complex across the street has more than 2 bedrooms and it&#039;s blocks of buildings with minimal street access and a huge, central surface parking lot. Given a choice, why would a family choose to live there?

Also, I&#039;ll take exception to the idea that the areas needs another grocery store. A Harris Teeter would be nice, but the location is 3 blocks from a Giant and walking distance to a Whole Foods. Retail space is fine, but saying the area needs a Harris Teeter is a bit silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll second what Elizabeth said. Downtown Silver Spring has a glut of 1-2 bedroom apartments. If you really want to talk about smart growth you need to directly design places where middle income families will want to live that aren&#8217;t separate houses on private plots of land.</p>
<p>If someone has the money, why would a 3-4 person family rent a 2 bedroom apartment when there are now full houses for rent for $2000/month in walking distance to the same station?</p>
<p>Only a fraction of the huge Blair complex across the street has more than 2 bedrooms and it&#8217;s blocks of buildings with minimal street access and a huge, central surface parking lot. Given a choice, why would a family choose to live there?</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ll take exception to the idea that the areas needs another grocery store. A Harris Teeter would be nice, but the location is 3 blocks from a Giant and walking distance to a Whole Foods. Retail space is fine, but saying the area needs a Harris Teeter is a bit silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something you didn&#039;t mention is that Falkland Chase South provides rare family housing close to metro--2 and 3 bedroom townhouses with larger living and dining rooms than is common in downtown Silver Spring.  Silver Spring has so many &quot;luxury highrises&quot; with 1 and 2 bedroom apartments and very little common space;  what is truly scarce near metro is rental housing for families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something you didn&#8217;t mention is that Falkland Chase South provides rare family housing close to metro&#8211;2 and 3 bedroom townhouses with larger living and dining rooms than is common in downtown Silver Spring.  Silver Spring has so many &#8220;luxury highrises&#8221; with 1 and 2 bedroom apartments and very little common space;  what is truly scarce near metro is rental housing for families.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Goodspeed</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2009/2512/comment-page-1#comment-439313</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Goodspeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mari, short answer, yes many advocates are involved.

Montgomery County &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/dhctmpl.asp?url=/content/dhca/housing/housing_P/mpdu/MPDU_Process_Developers.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;requires all apartment buildings&lt;/a&gt; over 20 units have affordable units. A coalition of groups negotiated the current package, but the law guarantees at least 12% moderate priced units, sometimes more. If D.C. ever got their act together with inclusionary zoning, the concept wouldn&#039;t be so foreign to D.C. residents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mari, short answer, yes many advocates are involved.</p>
<p>Montgomery County <a href="http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/dhctmpl.asp?url=/content/dhca/housing/housing_P/mpdu/MPDU_Process_Developers.asp" rel="nofollow">requires all apartment buildings</a> over 20 units have affordable units. A coalition of groups negotiated the current package, but the law guarantees at least 12% moderate priced units, sometimes more. If D.C. ever got their act together with inclusionary zoning, the concept wouldn&#8217;t be so foreign to D.C. residents!</p>
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		<title>By: Mari</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2009/2512/comment-page-1#comment-439279</link>
		<dc:creator>Mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your motivation is affordable housing then (hopefully) affordable housing will be what you get. If affordable housing is just a by-product another goal, it is very possible that it will fall by the way-side.
Are there any affordable housing advocates involved with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your motivation is affordable housing then (hopefully) affordable housing will be what you get. If affordable housing is just a by-product another goal, it is very possible that it will fall by the way-side.<br />
Are there any affordable housing advocates involved with this?</p>
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		<title>By: dan reed</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2009/2512/comment-page-1#comment-438731</link>
		<dc:creator>dan reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome write-up of the Falklands controversy, and I&#039;m not just saying so because my name&#039;s in it. Falklands is just one of the many preservation-vs.-development dust-ups in Silver Spring over the past few decades. I definitely think that there&#039;d be less resistance to redevelopment if the projects that replaced local historic buildings were of higher quality or even a similar use. For instance, the ca.1927 Silver Spring Armory was torn down about ten years ago for the Downtown redevelopment project. It was replaced by a parking garage, movie theatre and hotel, while a new community building is only now breaking ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome write-up of the Falklands controversy, and I&#8217;m not just saying so because my name&#8217;s in it. Falklands is just one of the many preservation-vs.-development dust-ups in Silver Spring over the past few decades. I definitely think that there&#8217;d be less resistance to redevelopment if the projects that replaced local historic buildings were of higher quality or even a similar use. For instance, the ca.1927 Silver Spring Armory was torn down about ten years ago for the Downtown redevelopment project. It was replaced by a parking garage, movie theatre and hotel, while a new community building is only now breaking ground.</p>
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