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		<title>By: The Goodspeed Update &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Public Involvement in U. of Maryland East Campus Planning</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2008/2245/comment-page-1#comment-341549</link>
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		<description>[...] Tonight at an event at the MIT Department of Urban Studies and Planning I met Harry Mattison, the author of a blog about the  U. of Maryland East Campus Redevelopment Initiative (Official site) &gt; Rethink College Park: East Campus Posts Rethink College Park: &#8220;Engaging the Community in the East Campus Redevelopment&#8221; &gt; See also, &#8220;NIMBYism, Urban Development, and the Public Involvement Solution,&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tonight at an event at the MIT Department of Urban Studies and Planning I met Harry Mattison, the author of a blog about the  U. of Maryland East Campus Redevelopment Initiative (Official site) &gt; Rethink College Park: East Campus Posts Rethink College Park: &#8220;Engaging the Community in the East Campus Redevelopment&#8221; &gt; See also, &#8220;NIMBYism, Urban Development, and the Public Involvement Solution,&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Nairn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Nairn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great perspective on NIMBYism. This is the kind of conversation that needs to happen in planning circles. There are so many interesting directions of inquiry this post could lead to.

I agree with your conclusion, and I would also add that, in a sense, the genie of public participation is already out of the bottle. People like you and I are using communicative technologies that Jane Jacobs could only have dreamed of. Even if we wanted to cancel those meetings and cut the microphone off in the middle of a rant, the public will still find a way to be intimately involved. As they should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great perspective on NIMBYism. This is the kind of conversation that needs to happen in planning circles. There are so many interesting directions of inquiry this post could lead to.</p>
<p>I agree with your conclusion, and I would also add that, in a sense, the genie of public participation is already out of the bottle. People like you and I are using communicative technologies that Jane Jacobs could only have dreamed of. Even if we wanted to cancel those meetings and cut the microphone off in the middle of a rant, the public will still find a way to be intimately involved. As they should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2008/2245/comment-page-1#comment-258437</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Your point that understanding of NIMBYism rests not in planning but in political theory is accurate and incisive. Underpinning many of the ideas you&#039;ve just expressed is the logic of collective action (which is also the title of a brilliant book by Mancur Olson). It&#039;s really pretty simple - small groups with concentrated interests will form easier, lobby harder, and be more successful than very large groups with diffuse interests. The sugar lobby is a common example here; a very small group of US sugar producers gain millions (billions?) from protective tariffs, while 300 million US consumers are forced to pay a few extra cents on anything they eat that contains sugar. The tariffs remain because the small group cares more than the large group.

Likewise, with NIMBYism, the people who scream and wail are the ones with the most to lose. Meanwhile, those who stand to benefit are much larger in number but not as committed. This is not easily combatted, but the involvement of elightened activists is critical. When it comes to tariffs, economists can be a strong force in opposition to inefficient tariffs designed to benefit the few at the cost of the rest of us. When it comes to development patterns, we need city planners and other activists (such as your blog readers) to work on behalf of the &quot;correct&quot; (efficient, enlightened, whatever euphemism you prefer) outcome as vehemently as the NIMBYs work for the status quo.

One more thought. An interesting thread of political theory involves the imperfections of democracy. One of the more salient criticisms is the idea that one person=one vote does not factor in the intensity of people&#039;s preferences. If 51% of the people are mildly opposed to a policy, but 49% are enthusiastically for it, I think that the policy should be enacted, despite the simple will of the majority. The one positive thing to be said for NIMBYism is that it is one way of expressing intensity of preferences. The people in a neighborhood generally are the ones with the most to lose, so their complaints should not be ignored. However, they do need to be weighed against the benefits that could accrue to others. People like us need to be very vocal about those benefits to others, so that the merits of each side can be weighed appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Your point that understanding of NIMBYism rests not in planning but in political theory is accurate and incisive. Underpinning many of the ideas you&#8217;ve just expressed is the logic of collective action (which is also the title of a brilliant book by Mancur Olson). It&#8217;s really pretty simple &#8211; small groups with concentrated interests will form easier, lobby harder, and be more successful than very large groups with diffuse interests. The sugar lobby is a common example here; a very small group of US sugar producers gain millions (billions?) from protective tariffs, while 300 million US consumers are forced to pay a few extra cents on anything they eat that contains sugar. The tariffs remain because the small group cares more than the large group.</p>
<p>Likewise, with NIMBYism, the people who scream and wail are the ones with the most to lose. Meanwhile, those who stand to benefit are much larger in number but not as committed. This is not easily combatted, but the involvement of elightened activists is critical. When it comes to tariffs, economists can be a strong force in opposition to inefficient tariffs designed to benefit the few at the cost of the rest of us. When it comes to development patterns, we need city planners and other activists (such as your blog readers) to work on behalf of the &#8220;correct&#8221; (efficient, enlightened, whatever euphemism you prefer) outcome as vehemently as the NIMBYs work for the status quo.</p>
<p>One more thought. An interesting thread of political theory involves the imperfections of democracy. One of the more salient criticisms is the idea that one person=one vote does not factor in the intensity of people&#8217;s preferences. If 51% of the people are mildly opposed to a policy, but 49% are enthusiastically for it, I think that the policy should be enacted, despite the simple will of the majority. The one positive thing to be said for NIMBYism is that it is one way of expressing intensity of preferences. The people in a neighborhood generally are the ones with the most to lose, so their complaints should not be ignored. However, they do need to be weighed against the benefits that could accrue to others. People like us need to be very vocal about those benefits to others, so that the merits of each side can be weighed appropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Dealing With NIMBYs &#124; Market Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2008/2245/comment-page-1#comment-255997</link>
		<dc:creator>Dealing With NIMBYs &#124; Market Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a recent ULI post and on his own blog, Rob Goodspeed discussed NIMBYism: NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) activism is as bad as ever and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always say that the biggest drawback of planning school is that the curriculum barely acknowledges the political aspect of planning -- all the people who review site plans, zoning, area plans, master plans are political actors operating within a political context, small p and big P, and there is little instruction or exposure on how to navigate these politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always say that the biggest drawback of planning school is that the curriculum barely acknowledges the political aspect of planning &#8212; all the people who review site plans, zoning, area plans, master plans are political actors operating within a political context, small p and big P, and there is little instruction or exposure on how to navigate these politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Reid</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2008/2245/comment-page-1#comment-245500</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“premise is that when people are well informed about community development in general, and proposed project in particular, the likelihood of securing their support for a project greatly increases.”

Often citizens lack of understanding of the process leads to opposition in of itself and creates a hostility.  So I&#039;d definitely agree that if people had better information that you may resolve some NIMBY related issues.  Though from the numerous public hearings and community meetings that I&#039;ve watched it often seems there is a fear of change that is what really needs to be overcome.</description>
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<p>Often citizens lack of understanding of the process leads to opposition in of itself and creates a hostility.  So I&#8217;d definitely agree that if people had better information that you may resolve some NIMBY related issues.  Though from the numerous public hearings and community meetings that I&#8217;ve watched it often seems there is a fear of change that is what really needs to be overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bellows &#187; NIMBYism</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2008/2245/comment-page-1#comment-245233</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bellows &#187; NIMBYism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read Goodspeed on NIMBYism. For my money, the biggest problem with public involvement and development is that some [...]</description>
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