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		<title>By: The Goodspeed Update &#187; Blog Archive &#187; E-Government Software, Part Two</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Goodspeed Update &#187; Blog Archive &#187; E-Government Software, Part Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] public participation and engagement is a secondary function, if they support it at all. As I have written previously, part of the reason this type of software has been slow to mature is that they must meet the unique [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Recent Links Tagged With "edemocracy" - JabberTags</title>
		<link>http://goodspeedupdate.com/2008/2222/comment-page-1#comment-363555</link>
		<dc:creator>Recent Links Tagged With "edemocracy" - JabberTags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 09-12-2008   A Roundup of Tech Governance Doctoral Programs Saved by wayel23 on Sun 07-12-2008   Urban Planning and E-Government Saved by Rubix89 on Fri 21-11-2008   Everybody ConCon Saved by CESM on Thu 20-11-2008   E-Democracy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 09-12-2008   A Roundup of Tech Governance Doctoral Programs Saved by wayel23 on Sun 07-12-2008   Urban Planning and E-Government Saved by Rubix89 on Fri 21-11-2008   Everybody ConCon Saved by CESM on Thu 20-11-2008   E-Democracy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Nutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Nutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatcom Council of Governments has developed a website game as a way to interact with and educate the public about transportation and complex issues related to planning.   www.TransportationTown.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatcom Council of Governments has developed a website game as a way to interact with and educate the public about transportation and complex issues related to planning.   <a href="http://www.TransportationTown.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TransportationTown.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting topic indeed..

I am a town planner in Australia with strong interests in the interface between town planners at an institutional, local government level and stakeholder engagement.

In fact, I have have noticed little research has been done in Australia on this topic and intend to complete a research project addressing some issues raised on this page later this year.</description>
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<p>I am a town planner in Australia with strong interests in the interface between town planners at an institutional, local government level and stakeholder engagement.</p>
<p>In fact, I have have noticed little research has been done in Australia on this topic and intend to complete a research project addressing some issues raised on this page later this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Goodspeed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Goodspeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, thanks for your thoughts. My concern with Wikis is that they have a rather high barrier to entry. Take a moderate level computer user and ask them to edit a wiki - I bet most will be confused or have problems. They also are great for aggregating content or synthesizing it, but a lot of planning is about articulating views and contrasting multiple perspectives - not ideal for wikis. What uses do you think they have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, thanks for your thoughts. My concern with Wikis is that they have a rather high barrier to entry. Take a moderate level computer user and ask them to edit a wiki &#8211; I bet most will be confused or have problems. They also are great for aggregating content or synthesizing it, but a lot of planning is about articulating views and contrasting multiple perspectives &#8211; not ideal for wikis. What uses do you think they have?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize I&#039;m late ot this conversation.  Anyhow - I think you&#039;ve brushed off two major components - institutional resistance and IT ignorance.

Institutional resistance - my personal experience is that planners are reluctant to include the public through use of the internet simply because &quot;anyone can participate.&quot;  They often express their anxieties in precisely that way, but rarely seem cognizant that they&#039;ve just contradicted the expressed preference for public participation.

IT ignorance - the webpages you see put up by planning departments are like a history of the internet.  Not on webpage I&#039;ve seen has been cutting edge.  Alta Planning, for the LA Bike Master Plan, put up a webpage which would be state of the art 7 years ago.  LA DOT (not planning on the face of it, but in LA they&#039;ve appropriated many of those responsibilities) put together a webpage at great expense that is almost entirely static, even though dynamic PHP powered pages have been SOP for several years.  And planning departments continue to put up huge PDF&#039;s rather than build more wieldy indexable pages with the same content.

BTW - I would say a judicious use of Wikis and SMF forums can solve the participation issues you outline above.

Anyhow - interesting blog, I like much of what you&#039;ve written, and that which I disagree with is meaty enough to be worth thinking about.  Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize I&#8217;m late ot this conversation.  Anyhow &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve brushed off two major components &#8211; institutional resistance and IT ignorance.</p>
<p>Institutional resistance &#8211; my personal experience is that planners are reluctant to include the public through use of the internet simply because &#8220;anyone can participate.&#8221;  They often express their anxieties in precisely that way, but rarely seem cognizant that they&#8217;ve just contradicted the expressed preference for public participation.</p>
<p>IT ignorance &#8211; the webpages you see put up by planning departments are like a history of the internet.  Not on webpage I&#8217;ve seen has been cutting edge.  Alta Planning, for the LA Bike Master Plan, put up a webpage which would be state of the art 7 years ago.  LA DOT (not planning on the face of it, but in LA they&#8217;ve appropriated many of those responsibilities) put together a webpage at great expense that is almost entirely static, even though dynamic PHP powered pages have been SOP for several years.  And planning departments continue to put up huge PDF&#8217;s rather than build more wieldy indexable pages with the same content.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I would say a judicious use of Wikis and SMF forums can solve the participation issues you outline above.</p>
<p>Anyhow &#8211; interesting blog, I like much of what you&#8217;ve written, and that which I disagree with is meaty enough to be worth thinking about.  Keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who&#039;s worked in IT for years and has becoming increasing interested in government planning I find the concept of e-democracy very interesting.  Shortly myself and fellow IT professionals will begin pushing our local government to further open up access to documentation.  We will be pushing for web services, RSS feeds and generally more standardized access to government data that could be better used and integrated to help improve our city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s worked in IT for years and has becoming increasing interested in government planning I find the concept of e-democracy very interesting.  Shortly myself and fellow IT professionals will begin pushing our local government to further open up access to documentation.  We will be pushing for web services, RSS feeds and generally more standardized access to government data that could be better used and integrated to help improve our city.</p>
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